49ers 34 - Packers 6: Well then....
We'll have plenty of 49ers-Packers recap coverage in the next few days, but for this evening I wanted to get some quick observations down. It's been quite some time since the 49ers took care of business in this kind of fashion. There was some good, there was some bad and there is certainly still plenty to improve upon. However, for one day, there was plenty more good than bad.
J.T. O'Sullivan - We might as well start with the quarterbacks. O'Sullivan looked horrendous to start , but then the chemistry was re-established with Josh Morgan quite impressively. O'Sullivan showed us the absolute best and the absolute worst in the space of 30 minutes. If he ends up winning this little competition, it will definitely make for a roller-coaster season. If he was winning this competition heading into tonight, his 2nd quarter performance should be enough to keep him in the lead and maybe even buy him a little more cushion.
Alex Smith - Smith didn't look spectacular but he was able to move the offense and get 10 points on the board. The one noticeable problem he had was throwing behind and above receivers. He didn't hit a single receiver in stride and missed out on a big gain when he underthrow Josh Morgan. While O'Sullivan had some passing issues, when he was on he helping create big plays. At times it felt like Smith was holding the offense back from big plays. While he didn't do anything particularly awful, he definitely didn't do enough to warrant a start next weekend.
Shaun Hill - In this QB competition it's never really safe to make any proclamations, but I think barring injury to O'Sullivan AND Smith, Hill is more or less out of the contest. It doesn't help to be playing with the third string offense, but I just don't see enough snaps to go around for him to make a statement.
Josh Morgan - Let's just say my excitement level for this rookie is reaching unhealthy and unrealistic levels. Morgan finished with 5 receptions for 114 yards and was an Alex Smith underthrow from taking a 65 yarder to the house (or at least making a big gain). Last season Thomas Clayton led all NFL running backs in rushing and yet I did not find myself nearly as excited. Morgan made big catches, he did the little things (like getting first downs) and he was all over the field. Detractors would argue his big plays came against the Packers #3 or #4 guy, Jarrett Bush. However, I throw back two arguments: 1) He can't determine who covers him and 2) If Morgan is playing in the regular season he's likely being covered by the #3 or #4 guy because he's come into the game as part of a 3 or 4 receiver set.
As is quickly becoming tradition, I'm planning a post devoted just to Morgan's performance for early this coming week. I realize I am probably setting myself up for a huge disappointment, but let's be real here. The 49ers have been desperate to develop a star receiver since TO left town. Morgan may not become that star receiver, but he is showing legitimate signs of being a serious playmaker.
Dominique Zeigler - Zeigler is totally going to get screwed by the numbers game. Although, if the 49ers elect to keep 6 receivers I'd take him over Lelie any day. Zeigler made some solid catches and impressed me with his fearlessness, particularly considering how small he is. His bio says he's 185lbs, but I don't buy that. He's eligible for the practice squad again but I wouldn't be surprised to see another team try and snag him.
Defense - The biggest criticism of the 49ers defense has been the lack of a pass rush. It was only a single preseason game, but the defensive line and linebackers showed dramatic improvement from week 1. The team finished with 6 sacks and Aaron Rodgers could not get into a rhythm the entire first half. Ray McDonald clearly has problems with jumping offsides, but he is also showing signs of being a legit pass rusher. He had 1.5 sacks and forced Rodgers into another one (although that might be the .5). Tully Banta-Cain made noise in the fourth quarter with a pair of sacks and Justin Smith even got in on the action.
The highlight of the night on defense was the stop after O'Sullivan's INT. The defense got really lucky on the Donald Lee drop in the endzone, but followed that up with a pair of big stops. On that defensive stand, and many others, the defense used hard hitting to set the tone and make sure the Packers knew they were in for a long night.
Special Teams - We're going to break this down into the good and the bad. The good is very clear: Allen Rossum showed signs of why he was signed. While his punt return TD was against the bottom of the Packers depth chart, he had to make some Pro Bowl caliber moves to score the TD. Also, Joe Nedney continues to be absolutely money. If the 49ers are going to get into contention, having a kicker with ice water in his veins is a big asset.
Now the bad. The special teams coverage was absolutely atrocious on a couple of returns. Granted it's the bottom of the depth chart, but giving up a pair of big kick off returns, particularly after the Johnnie Lee Higgins TD last week, is not a good sign. This coming week's game will give us a better idea of special teams coverage since first teamers play for up to three full quarters.
In spite of some of the ugliness, it was a fun game to watch, which is something 49ers fans have missed out on for much of the last few years. It's only one game so I won't get myself too worked up over the offensive performance (aside from Josh Morgan of course). There was plenty of good, but also plenty of room for improvement, making this upcoming game against the Bears all the more important.
Speaking of which, it's a short week as the 49ers and Bears square off Thursday on Fox in a nationally televised game. I'll have some more specific reviews of this just completed game and we'll get prepped for the Bears game shortly thereafter.
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J.T. O'Sullivan to start Saturday: What means more than "the writing is on the wall?"
Coach Mike Nolan made the QB rotation official for this Saturday against Green Bay. It'll be the Battle for California as former UC-Davis great J.T. O'Sullivan squares off against former Cal Bear Aaron Rodgers. The rotation is the same as last week with Alex Smith relieving O'Sullivan and Shaun Hill relieving Smith.
It's only the second game of the preseason, but clearly the pecking order has been established. I mentioned previously how I just wanted somebody to be the #1 guy, and it seems like we're getting that.
Considering the amount of money Alex Smith is owed in 2009 and 2010 ($9.625M and $15.05M), if O'Sullivan becomes the starter this season and lasts as the starter, I'd imagine Alex Smith would get cut next offseason. Not a stunning proclamation, but definitely hits pretty deep considering he was a #1 overall pick and the guy Nolan was going to build around. Of course, if the season goes south, well Nolan won't be around either. And it makes me annoyed that I bought the Alex Smith jersey. Great call there.
In another starting note, it looks like Josh Morgan will be starting opposite Isaac Bruce on Saturday. Hopefully O'Sullivan and Morgan can continue the rapport they seemed to establish last game. It sounds like Bruce won't get a lot of playing time so Jason Hill will get starter quality minutes.
Arnaz Battle, Bryant Johnson and Ashley Lelie will apparently all be in street clothes on Saturday. Battle's hamstring was feeling ok but he felt it "grab" in practice on Tuesday. So definitely better safe than sorry. As for Lelie, well, if he's not cut before the start of the regular season I'd be somewhat surprised. He brings the vertical threat, but you really can't bring it on the sideline. He'd need to get healthy for the last 2 games and really wow people to secure a roster spot.
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49ers Training Camp: Is J.T. O'Sullivan becoming "the man?"
EDITOR'S NOTE 10:40AM: Nolan acknowledged what he has made obvious: J.T. O'Sullivan is leading the QB race.
Well this is certainly getting rather interesting. After starting the preseason opener against the Oakland Raiders, J.T. O'Sullivan has worked with the first team in every practice since. Additionally, Shaun Hill has not played at all since the Raiders game. Maiocco put together a run down of every practice since O'Sullivan was more or less officially added to the competition mix. Including split sessions and taking over at any point in the practice, the time with the first team offense breaks down as follows:
- O'Sullivan: 8.5
- Hill: 2.83
- Smith: 2.67
When the media asked Mike Nolan about the QB rotation, Nolan said:
RE: Should we not read into the fact that J.T. [O’Sullivan] has gotten all of the first team reps since the game?
“As far as final product or do you mean today’s practice? Today’s practice you can read into it. Yes, for the practice.”RE: Are [the quarterbacks] still rotating now? It doesn’t seem like there’s any rotating?
“There will be a practice this afternoon, there’ll be one tomorrow and we’ll see how it goes, alright.”RE: Why isn’t Shaun [Hill] getting any snaps right now?
“Because the rotation that we have right now. That’s the way it is. That’s what we’re doing.”RE: Will Alex [Smith] go with the first team in the afternoon [practice]?
“No. No decision has been made. I’m confident that we have three guys and we’re kind of repping them. That’s all I have to say on that.”
On the one hand Nolan clearly seemed annoyed with the QB discussions and tried to play it off almost like they were stupid questions. On the other hand, I think we'd be naive to not make some very big assumptions from this. While I might be incorrect, I don't think I'd be shocking anybody by concluding that J.T. O'Sullivan is the #1 quarterback right now.
If we see O'Sullivan starting this Saturday, the conclusion would certainly be validated. If Smith or Hill starts getting more first team reps, well I'll just be further confused.
One thing to keep in mind is O'Sullivan's background. He played under Martz in Detroit and it's probably safe to say he knows Martz's offense the best. That knowledge early in training camp would likely make it a bit easier for him to take the lead in the QB competition. As Smith and/or Hill gain further knowledge of the offense, will they be able to climb past O'Sullivan if he's getting all the #1 snaps?
What is my solution? For this Saturday's game against give each quarterback two series with the first team offense. The 49ers managed 6 drives in the first half against the Raiders. If you've decided Hill is out of the competition, then give each of Smith and O'Sullivan three or so series with the first team offense. Part of the value is seeing them with the same offensive weapons and protection. The other part is seeing them against the same type of competition.
Considering how poorly things have gone at times I'm reaching the point where I don't care if they name O'Sullivan the #1 guy. I like Smith and hope he can win the job, but now I just want a quarterback. I want one guy getting ALL the reps with the first team offense to build some chemistry. I think a little chemistry would go a long way to showing some improvements.
Whomever it's going to be, just pick somebody and be done with it. It's not like we're deciding between Joe Montana and Tim Rattay here.
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49ers offense after one game: A little good, a little bad, plenty to work on
I was trying to think of the best way to describe the opener and all I can think of is a mix of good and bad. I honestly don't know whether it was more bad than good or vice versa because the bad tends to stick out a little more in the preseason. The first preseason game is likely going to be your ugliest performance. Even though the team has been practicing together for the past couple weeks, the offense is still pretty fresh and I'd imagine it has not been fully implemented.
It's difficult to make any hard conclusions at this point, particularly on the offensive side of the ball. As I've said before, the problem with such an in-depth QB competition is that a single player is not getting the majority of the snaps. One guy is not getting the consistent chemistry with the first team offense. However, J.T. O'Sullivan definitely showed some quality chemistry with Josh Morgan on the four receptions. Of the three QBs, O'Sullivan impressed me the most, even with some his mistakes. I don't think his interception was as bad as the announcers made it seem. Even though it was overthrown pretty strongly, it actually looked like DeShaun Foster cut the route short or gave up on it, depending on how you look at it.
The offensive line definitely had issues in the running game, but in the passing game it's a little harder to assess. They only gave up 1 sack (a second wasn't counted b/c of a 49ers penalty), but there was definitely pressure on the QBs. O'Sullivan's fumble came when he was forced to scramble and try and make something happen. Smith was forced to make some plays on the run, but when he had time in the pocket he connected on some very solid passes, particularly to Arnaz Battle. The same holds true for Shaun Hill. Whenever he (and the rest of the QBs) got good protection, good things usually happened. That's not exactly rocket science, but certainly something to keep in mind. In his comments the next day, Nolan acknowledged Staley and Snyder needed to step up their game on the left side. Hopefully we'll see some improvement next weekend against Green Bay.
My biggest issue in this game was in some of the offensive play-calling. On Alex Smith's first drive, fullback Zak Keasey was actually lined up as the deep running back on back to back plays. The plays resulted in 3rd and 7, an incomplete pass and then the punt returned by Johnnie Lee Higgins for a touchdown. I realize there is a need to establish the run. You certainly don't want your QB getting killed every time he drops back and you need the run to establish the play action. But Zak Keasey? Thomas Clayton rushed the ball 5 times and was thrown to 8 times (resulting in 5 receptions). It's still early, but I'd like to see him getting additional touches to really see what he can do and this was the perfect situation for that.
Keasey factored into several of my problems with the play-calling. Smith had a nice little drive going at the end of the second quarter and on 3rd and 3 at the Raiders 5, the 49ers ran Keasey from the deep spot right up the middle for one yard. In that situation why not run a little play-action? They had Josh Morgan split out wide and Jason Hill in the slot, both to the left side. Why not run Hill on a crossing pattern behind the linebackers. A quality play-action fake and there's a decent chance he's wide open.
It's entirely possible that if the 49ers do pass the ball in these situations the QB gets sacked, the passes are incomplete or their is a turnover. However, since this is the preseason and these games don't count, why not mix it up a little more? Is anybody else also confused by some of the play-calling or do you see some rhyme and/or reason for it?
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49ers-Raiders: Measurements of success
We've finally reached our first game day of the year, even if it is just the first exhibition game. As it is the preseason, measurements of success are quite different from the regular season. In fact, one could argue that the measurements of success are different from the first preseason game to the fourth preseason game.
The last two games are probably the easiest to assess. In the last game, I think it's safe to say avoiding injuries is literally all that matters. In the third preseason game your starters usually get the largest chunking of playing time that they'll see in the preseason. So, while a win isn't the most important result, you want to see solid production from your first team offense and defense.
The first and second games are a little more difficult to determine. In the case of the 49ers and their quarterback competition, this difficulty is only magnified. J.T. O'Sullivan gets the first crack, followed by Alex Smith and then Shaun Hill. I'd imagine Nnamdi Asomugha won't see a lot of playing time so that certainly affects the quality of the defense O'Sullivan faces. As for Smith and Hill, while the Raiders first team defense presents many challenges, there appears to be a pretty steep decline as you move down the depth chart.
So how do you measure the success or failure of the 49ers offense? If they struggle to move the ball all night long, then there clearly is an issue. However, if Alex Smith and/or Shaun Hill are able to move the offense against the 2nd and 3rd string defenses, have we really learned anything? I'd say it's a lose/"not win" situation. Either they look bad and we're in trouble, or they look good like they're supposed to against a second or third string defense.
The issues on offense have overshadowed the defense, which has the pieces in place to do some good things this season. As far as I'm concerned, the Raiders first team offense is an offense on the rise. If JaMarcus Russell can get on board with his receivers and the running game continues to improve, they'll provide a nice little challenge. The 49ers defense has continued to add quality pieces and will get a stiff challenge right off the bat. The Raiders didn't have the greatest pass protection last season, so hopefully the 49ers defensive line and linebackers can get some pressure and gain a little confidence.
I think you can compare the four games of the preseason to a boxing match. This first game will be like the first couple rounds of a boxing match. The 49ers will be looking to feel things out and see what adjustments they need to make. In terms of the QB competition, you want somebody to step up, but you've still got time to figure out where your strengths lie.
The second game is where they want people to truly step up and make plays. You'd like to have answers at your starting positions, but there's still a little bit of time to step up. Fans want answers at this point before having to settle in for the long haul. The third game is where you find out what you're made of and for most teams, this is where everything is won or los. Finally, the fourth game is where you're just trying to make it to the end of the match without getting dropped by a sucker punch (also known as the "Dr. James Andrews consultation."
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49ers QB Situation: The Third Rail of 49ers discussions
What's the third rail you ask? Well, for those who don't know it's the electric rail on the subway system you don't wanna be touching. At election time, there is often talk of how social security is the "third rail of American politics." It's the topic that has to be discussed, but it's also a topic that leads to great acrimony. That seems like a pretty fitting description of the 49ers quarterback situation.
There are several different threads related to the QB situation and I wanted to bring them all together. I've included a poll of where you think the competition stands right now. I'd like you to base your vote on media reports, as well as what you infer from the situation. I'd prefer you note vote based on who you want to be in what position.
I've chosen this juncture for a couple of reasons. First, J.T. O'Sullivan has been named the starter for this Friday's game against the Raiders. Second, the Brett Favre situation has led to wide-spread speculation around the league based on the dominoes that would fall. Heck, people have started talking about the potential for Jeff Garcia to return to the Bay (Of course, since initially typing this, the dominoes have begun to fall).
So, I thought I'd go through and give my thoughts on the positives and negatives of each quarterback. Basically we're talking reasons why a guy should be leading the pack and why not. I'll be honest, some of these pros and cons are debatable (shocking, I know), but this is a combination of my thoughts and what popular opinion has thrown out there. I'm sure I'll miss some of the pros and cons, so please mention them in the comments. This will sound kind of like something in elementary school, but if you throw out a negative about a guy, try and come up with something positive as well. If you can't think of a new one that's fine, but I'd like a somewhat even-keeled approach to this.
Alex Smith
Why he should be #1:1) He's arguably the most physically-talented of the three quarterbacks. 2) He's got the big contract and that should give him an automatic lead. It should be his job to lose. 3) He was showing improvement in 2006 and while he struggled in 2007, it should be a throw-away year because of the injury issues. 4) He's a smart guy who can learn this complicated offense, which is a key for the starter on this team. 5) He has shown ability to make plays outside the pocket, which is essential in this day and age of big, quick defensive linemen and linebackers; 6) He was drafted by Nolan and considering this season is a referendum on Nolan, they might as well sink or swim together
Why he should NOT be #1: 1) He does not appear to command the level of respect from his team that a starting QB should. 2) The communication issues indicate he clearly needs to a fresh start away from Mike Nolan. 3) While we joke about his "small hands," there are certain physical issues that cannot be overlooked. 4) He played in Urban Meyer's spread option offense in college, which is not conducive to development as a pro QB (because he sure isn't Warren Moon). 5) He is not decisive enough as a quarterback, leading to more sacks and a worn down offensive line.
Shaun Hill
Why he should be #1: 1) He won two straight games to snap the ugly 8-game losing streak last season; 2) While not spectacular, he was very efficient, evoking a Super Bowl winning Trent Dilfer (as opposed to 2006 or 2007 Dilfer); 3) He seems to command respect for how he came in cold and made things happen; 4) Although he doesn't have a cannon for an arm, he can make most of the throws necessary to be successful in this league. The Martz offense is not just a chuck it offense and the 49ers have a group of receivers that can make plays on quick receptions.
Why he should NOT be #1: 1) While he did win games, he was not exactly spectacular and the teams he played were not in the best situations (Cincy was falling apart and TB was resting their starters); 2) He can't throw the deep ball like Smith and O'Sullivan; 3) In spite of being in the league for seven years, he has very little in-game experience
J.T. O'Sullivan
Why he should be #1:1) He knows the offense better than Smith or Hill and has worked with Martz longer; 2) He's got an abundance of confidence, which is absolutely necessary to be a good/great starting QB in this league; 3) He can prove what an idiot I was here;
Why he should NOT be #1: 1) He might just be a little toooo confident; 2) Like Hill, he's been around the league for a while and barely left the sideline
As you can see, my pros and cons decrease as we move down from Smith. I have to claim a little ignorance on O'Sullivan. If you check out the scouting report I got from our Detroit blogger, there didn't appear to be much of a chance of O'Sullivan making an impact. And yet, here we are 5+ months later and he's right in the thick of things.
This is not a thread asking for predictions. As we head into the first exhibition game, it's essential to consider the pros and cons of each guy. We have an idea of what each quarterback does well and where they struggle. We need to know what to look for if we want to accurately judge our QBs. For example, if Shaun Hill goes 7-for-10 in the second half on Friday, is it a success and does he move up the depth chart? Well if he's throwing quick passes, it's a plus, but certainly something he's done well to date. Rather, I (and by extension, we) want to see O'Sullivan/Smith/Hill take some chances with their passes. That's not exactly the most original statement, but I definitely think it is something that we need to remember from time to time.
The plan is to run this poll in the days leading up to each exhibition game. Everyone will have their own opinion of how a given QB performed. This will give us a very unscientific way of seeing where the collective public opinion lies.
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J.T. O'Sullivan to start Friday: Let the wild speculation begin
Well then. J.T. O'Sullivan will be getting the reps this Friday with the first team offense. According to Mike Nolan he'll play between a quarter and a quarter and a half. Alex Smith will then play into the beginning of the third quarter and Shaun Hill will close out the game. Nolan emphasized this does not mean O'Sullivan is the starting quarterback.
Based on his past comments about splitting up the starts I'm not so surprised. Originally it was going to be Hill and Smith starting the first two games, but since O'Sullivan reasserted his spot in the QB competition, that idea is out the window. It seems like O'Sullivan is in the perfect position where his extra knowledge of the offense is allowing him to put some pressure on Smith and Hill. At the same time, the extra knowledge could hurt his chances. The coaches figure he knows the most and thus expect more out of him.
Speaking of starters, the top of the wide receiver depth chart is a bit injury riddled and so it looks like Jason Hill and Josh Morgan will see plenty of first-team action on Friday. According to Barrows, the top 3 receivers in terms of training camp receptions are Bryant Johnson, Josh Morgan and Jason Hill, in that order. Since Isaac Bruce and Arnaz Battle have sat out a fair number of practices that is not exactly a stunning statistic. At the same time, when you're meant to be a first string guy, like Johnson, it's good that he's making plays, even if it is just training camp.
EDITOR'S NOTE 7:50PM: I was poking around Sando's NFC West blog and saw something interesting. Prior to the announcement of O'Sullivan as a starter, Sando said:
Based on what we've seen, I would expect Nolan to maintain the current order based (to some degree) on which quarterbacks are scheduled to work more with the starters late in the week. That type of allotment could favor J.T. O'Sullivan and Alex Smith in this first exhibition game. The 49ers are anxious to look at each quarterback, so the assumption is that all three will play. But the logical move would be to give O'Sullivan and Smith the longest looks against the Raiders.
So maybe that gives us a little more insight into the decision.
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49ers Training Camp: Nolan Quotes
The 49ers are nine practice days into training camp and we're entering the home stretch leading to the first preseason game. Before getting into Mike Nolan's post practice Q&A, I wanted to briefly discuss the Hall of Fame game. I flipped on NBC yesterday afternoon to catch the beginning of the game. Before I get to the negatives I will say it was a nice feeling to have football back in my life. As the game kicked off I checked out Stampede Blue and Hogs Haven, our Colts and Redskins blogs. They had their open threads and that drove home the point of how close we are to football again. This Friday at 7pm pacific we'll have the first open thread of the season for the 49ers and the Raiders.
So, during the game last night, when they flipped it down to sideline reporter Adam Schefter, I expected some discussion about the game itself, or either team. Instead, I get bludgeoned over the head with more Brett Favre reports. Then, later in the game, we get live footage of Brett Favre's private plane landing in Green Bay with Packers fans waiting and cheering. Finally we got some footage of Aaron Rodgers struggling a little bit in the Packers scrimmage game. Add it all up and what do you get? Well, I realize Brett Favre is a once in a lifetime talent and he's done great things in the NFL. I wouldn't wish ill-will upon Favre, but I most definitely am rooting for Aaron Rodgers in this "QB competition."
Anyways, that's my little Packers rant. The entire free world (minus me) will be descending upon Green Bay today for Favre's first practice and I can only imagine the circus it will cause. Out here, while we may have a QB competition, it's just a straight football contest and not some bizarre public spectacle (well at least not yet). Onto the quotes as we are a mere five days away from some real football!
Who won't be going to Napa for the joint practice?
“Michael Robinson, Mark Roman, David Baas, [Jerard] Rabb the wide receiver, [Lewis] Baker the defensive back, and Parys Haralson. Parys’ shoulder is a little banged up, so I want to keep him down [here] to get some treatment on that.”
What will the QB rotation be the rest of the way?
“You know guys, we’ve got about 15 training camp days left, and we’ve scripted those things out. It should be five, five and five. One of these might count as one of the 15 left. But rather than who’s first, who’s second the rest of the way we kind of scripted out from first, second and third-team. I only say that because I’d have to go and look at my notes to see who’s winning where and what. But like I said, the objective is to get them all with the different groups and that’s what our next 15 look like.”
Are joint practices beneficial?
“Yeah, I thought that they were very beneficial. The objective for both teams is to work against some other people, and we’ve got to keep it on that level. That’s why I say it’s not a scrimmage. It will be a practice as we’ve had thus far. So, there will be no live to the ground type of drills, I think that sometimes is where it gets a little heated. At the same time they’ll be competing. It’s important to them. I know all the guys will take pride in what they’re doing and if someone feels that they’ve gone too far, somebody might try to get an understanding. But I hope that both teams have a good understanding. I believe they will, otherwise we wouldn’t be doing it."
Will special teams compete against each other?
“Yeah, they’ll go in the early part of practice. There’s a quick stretch and then about a 10-minute segment where the two special teams will work against each other. I believe right now its punt return. We’ll probably keep it like that for the morning and the evening. Kickoff and kickoff coverage type of things are hard to get in. Prior to team [drills] there’s a possibility of us doing a little field goal stuff. But again, the punt and punt return will happen for sure, the other things we’ll wait and see. Those other things are dangerous plays. Kickoff [and] kickoff return is a dangerous play and so is a field goal to some degree.”
MY THOUGHTS
The way this whole QB competition is playing out, I just pray to the heavens that Alex Smith is the guy who can take control once the games begin. Why Smith? It's safe to say that naming Smith the starter would create the least amount of controversy (assuming he appeared to deserve it with his performance on the field). It would just be really nice to see the team start the regular season with no burning controversy. In that regard, really it just comes down to ANYBODY clearly winning the job.
The team has their joint practice with the Raiders (somebody wake up Al Davis!) leading up to this Friday's showdown at McAfee Coliseum. Going into last season I was excited about the possibilities due to the 49ers strong finish to 2006. This year I'd have to describe myself as anxious for the start of the season. I'm really excited to see how things play out, but really it's because we will finally get some kind of answer at QB. As I've said before, the downside to that is that the answer could be that we just have to blow the position up and start all over.
Even though we still have several days left, the Colts-Redskins game has me officially amped up for the 2008 NFL season. Speaking of which, did anybody catch Colt Brennan lighting up the Colts 3rd string defense? I smell a Redskins bandwagon brewing!
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49ers Training Camp: So J.T. O'Sullivan is in the starting mix. Or, maybe he is not.
Mike Nolan quotations:
"Shaun Hill is resting his shoulder. So since it was his turn to work with the first group, that’s why J.T. O’Sullivan worked with the first group. Because if he’s going to replace somebody’s repetitions, in fairness that’s what you do. And it is still wide open. So they’re all competing, but that’s where it’s at.”
On whether J.T. O'Sullivan is "back" in the mix for a starting job:
“No, he’s been in it all along. We did say that it would be difficult to get repetitions for the third guy. And now that he’s getting some repetitions, we’re doing it in a fashion that keeps it fair . . . Again, J.T. O’Sullivan still has less reps, but he had an opportunity to get some, so he got them. But this quarterback position is open. They’re competing for it, as I said all along.”
Huh?????
Color me just a little bit confused. First, I'll talk about what I actually think I understand in all of this. Shaun Hill has thrown more passes in this training camp than probably every previous training camp combined. He's never been in a battle to be the starting QB so that makes sense. So, his arm got sore and they rested him, replacing his reps with J.T. O'Sullivan.
I start to get a little confused because they say they want to keep Smith and Hill's reps with the first team even. The problem is that Smith is already going to get more reps because Hill is missing time. Of course, now today I read that Smith might get a day or two of rest. Is J.T. O'Sullivan throwing a monkey wrench into the QB plans? I could have sworn that last week it was a 2-man battle. Did the rest for Hill open it back up? I was going to guess maybe O'Sullivan got a little pissy about lack of playing time, but I really don't think that's something that Nolan would allow.
I was going to use this to re-assess the QB competition, but I really don't know what to think right now. As would be expected with the installation of a new offense, things are a little sloppy right now. Martz says it takes more than a week for it to start to flow and that is certainly understandable. At the same time, we're all impatient because we've been waiting 3+ years for it to "start flowing" in a more general sense.
Obviously I'm willing to give Mike Martz the benefit of the doubt. The man is an offensive genius and helped turn an Arena Football QB and former grocery store employee into a Super Bowl winning QB. At the same time, I can't imagine things will be all that pretty in the first game. Martz says more repetitions will get the offense in sync and things will start to look better. Of course, the QBs in this case are splitting reps down the middle (maybe down in thirds now) meaning less reps for each QB.
While that has worried me recently, one thing has kept a little more positive lately. In 1999, Trent Green was the clear-cut starting QB heading into training camp. I believe it was during a preseason game that he got his knee shredded to hell and back, at which point Kurt Warner took over. I don't know how many reps Warner had with the first team before Green went down, but clearly he could handle that offense.
My biggest concern is in the timing. I'd imagine there is a bit of a difference between chucking passes to Jason Hill, Ashley Lelie and Josh Morgan versus Isaac Bruce, Bryant Johnson and Arnaz Battle.
So, I guess this opens up a few questions. What exactly is up with J.T. O'Sullivan in all of this? Will the offense really become fluid in the coming weeks? Or will the split competition water down the final winner?
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49ers Training Camp Day 5 in Review
The 49ers got through their second day of padded practice with a few bumps and bruises but some interesting developments as well.
1. Mr. Goldson, please answer the white courtesy phone. Mark Roman had to sit out today's practice with a hamstring strain, meaning Dashon Goldson practiced with the first team defense. As long as Roman gets back to healthy I'd imagine he'll hang on to the starting free safety job for at least the beginning of the season. However, if Goldson continues to make plays, as he's done in practice so far, he could snatch the job away. Of course, if both are playing well, I'd imagine the team would find ways to get both in the lineup. Goldson played a good bit of cornerback in college so he has the necessary flexibility.
2. Now if only Jennings could stay healthy and keep his head on straight, for crying out loud. Both MM (see the comments at the bottom) and Barrows have pointed out that Jonas Jennings has been the best offensive lineman in camp, with MM also giving a plug to Eric Heitmann. Heitmann struggled last season after coming back from a busted up leg. Jennings has had off the field issues and injury issues crop up ever since he signed his 7-year deal with the 49ers. If these two guys can stay healthy and have bounce back years, I think this offensive line goes from weakness to strength. Staley still has to prove himself at left tackle and Baas/Wragge/Rachal have their work cut out for them. However, the talent is there for the 49ers to have a very good offensive line this season. That would be HUGE for whomever is leading the team at QB.
3. QB numbers. Maiocco has been so kind as to provide his unofficial pass statistics for the 11-on-11 dills: Alex Smith is 65 of 99 (65.7%) with 1 TD and 3 INTs. Shaun Hill is 60 of 94 (63.8%) with 1 TD and 4 INTs. A couple things to keep in mind on those statistics: 1) The 49ers have worked inside the redzone in only one practice, 2) It's not a TD if it's not caught in the TD or there is no defender between the receiver and the end zone when he catches the ball. So those numbers certainly have to be taken with a grain of salt.
4. Thank the lord he didn't pull a Jay Moore. Kentwan Balmer injured his ankle when a teammate fell on it during a running drill. There were worries it was a high ankle sprain, but it appears to only be a mild sprain. Moore suffered a high ankle sprain last year and missed the whole season.
5. Some other injury news. Arnaz Battle was held out of practice but it appears to be a simple precautionary measure. He has had knee injuries and other bumps and bruises in the past. Battle has reached that point where he's turning into an established veteran where you know what you're gonna get from him. You never want a guy losing reps in practice, but if it keeps him healthy I suppose it works.
I wanted to wrap up with an interesting quote from Mike Nolan after practice:
"Yesterday we had three turnovers and a couple of incomplete passes that when we get our timing and all down will be big gains. They turn into interceptions because they bounce off a guy’s pads or something happened that we might have gone to an inside guy instead of the outside with the ball. Just little things that when we get it down is an opportunity for a big play. We have to understand that. Guys come out and say, ‘Well I saw this with turnovers.’ But when you analyze it, it’s the right decision and makes us a big play that we didn’t have before. So there’s excitement. The guys see it, but you have to point it out so they’re not wondering, ‘Did I really see that, or did I not?’ When the coach talks about it, it’s a little bit more real than them looking at each other and saying, ‘Did you almost make a big play?’ ‘Yes, I did.’ Players are always going to say, ‘Well I almost hit it out of the park.’ And they popped out. It’s not really the same thing.”
This is one thing we all have to keep in mind as we roll through training camp. With the new offense, it will definitely take some time for the offense to come together. Mike Martz mentioned he had never been in a situation like this with an even split of snaps between the top 2 QBs. I certainly hope that isn't detrimental to the development of some sort of cohesiveness in the offense.
This continued development of the offense will be something to keep an eye on through each othe preseason games. I definitely want to try and do some charting of plays and see what kind of success Smith and Hill have early on. It's only preseason, but for a small stretch Smith/Hill will still see #1 defenses so there should be some valuable analysis available.
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