49ers 34 - Packers 6: Postgame Quotes
First off, I wanted to lead with one of the most bizarre but great quotes of the season so far. At one point they were talking about how intense Justin Smith was, even to the media. They then showed a picture and Eric Davis said, "That guy may have stolen a car." I mentioned it in the game thread, but wanted to point it out one more time. I just don't really know what to do with a great line like that. Eric Davis may not be the best color guy, but he reeled me in with that one.
49ERS HEAD COACH MIKE NOLAN
On the win
“A win versus a good football team: I’m pleased with that. We do want to keep in perspective that it was a preseason game although preseason games are important, naturally, in the development of the offense, defense and special teams, and the cohesiveness of the group."
On the defensive performance
"...I thought we played very physical defensively. We had several turnovers in the game. Some of it was our causing, some of it was their mistakes. Nonetheless, those were important. We kept the yardage down."
On Ray McDonald and Justin Smith
"I saw several players make some plays but I know one player that caught my attention on some plays was Ray MacDonald. He’s working very well on the defense both on the base-downs and in the sub-package. He works closely with Justin Smith. The two of them are working together well as far as pass-rush situations, whether it’s on the outside or whether it’s the inside. They mix it up, both."
49ERS WR JOSH MORGAN
On scoring his first TD
"It really feels great. It’s a blessing from God. The cornerback tried to play me press and I beat him off the line. Our quarterback made a great throw. I just went up to get it."
On facing the Bears this week
“It’s football. That’s the way I look at it. It’s football no matter where you’re at. God put me here to play this sport. It’s football, so were going to play football just like we play at home.”
Editor's Note: Not only is he mastering the offense, he's also mastering the thanking of God and the cliches. Just an all around talent!
49ERS OLB TULLY BANTA-CAIN
Comparing his performance this week versus last week against Oakland
“I think I improved a little bit [since] Oakland. I think I got more snaps than I did [in the first game]. As the fourth quarter came, I started getting a rhythm and getting a feel for the game, so I was able to make a couple of plays in the fourth quarter. I feel I improved a little bit, but I’ve got a long way to go.”
49ERS QB J.T O'SULLIVAN
On the gelling of the offense
“It is about everybody doing what they are supposed to do – trusting each other to be exactly where they’re supposed to be, especially the wide receivers. Trusting the offensive line to hold up and protect like they did tonight. And for us [QB’s] to put the ball exactly where it’s supposed to be. When all those things and the running game are jelling, it is going to be really fun to watch this offense.”
Alex Smith and Allen Rossum, as well as some Packers quotes, after the jump
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49ers 34 - Packers 6: Well then....
We'll have plenty of 49ers-Packers recap coverage in the next few days, but for this evening I wanted to get some quick observations down. It's been quite some time since the 49ers took care of business in this kind of fashion. There was some good, there was some bad and there is certainly still plenty to improve upon. However, for one day, there was plenty more good than bad.
J.T. O'Sullivan - We might as well start with the quarterbacks. O'Sullivan looked horrendous to start , but then the chemistry was re-established with Josh Morgan quite impressively. O'Sullivan showed us the absolute best and the absolute worst in the space of 30 minutes. If he ends up winning this little competition, it will definitely make for a roller-coaster season. If he was winning this competition heading into tonight, his 2nd quarter performance should be enough to keep him in the lead and maybe even buy him a little more cushion.
Alex Smith - Smith didn't look spectacular but he was able to move the offense and get 10 points on the board. The one noticeable problem he had was throwing behind and above receivers. He didn't hit a single receiver in stride and missed out on a big gain when he underthrow Josh Morgan. While O'Sullivan had some passing issues, when he was on he helping create big plays. At times it felt like Smith was holding the offense back from big plays. While he didn't do anything particularly awful, he definitely didn't do enough to warrant a start next weekend.
Shaun Hill - In this QB competition it's never really safe to make any proclamations, but I think barring injury to O'Sullivan AND Smith, Hill is more or less out of the contest. It doesn't help to be playing with the third string offense, but I just don't see enough snaps to go around for him to make a statement.
Josh Morgan - Let's just say my excitement level for this rookie is reaching unhealthy and unrealistic levels. Morgan finished with 5 receptions for 114 yards and was an Alex Smith underthrow from taking a 65 yarder to the house (or at least making a big gain). Last season Thomas Clayton led all NFL running backs in rushing and yet I did not find myself nearly as excited. Morgan made big catches, he did the little things (like getting first downs) and he was all over the field. Detractors would argue his big plays came against the Packers #3 or #4 guy, Jarrett Bush. However, I throw back two arguments: 1) He can't determine who covers him and 2) If Morgan is playing in the regular season he's likely being covered by the #3 or #4 guy because he's come into the game as part of a 3 or 4 receiver set.
As is quickly becoming tradition, I'm planning a post devoted just to Morgan's performance for early this coming week. I realize I am probably setting myself up for a huge disappointment, but let's be real here. The 49ers have been desperate to develop a star receiver since TO left town. Morgan may not become that star receiver, but he is showing legitimate signs of being a serious playmaker.
Dominique Zeigler - Zeigler is totally going to get screwed by the numbers game. Although, if the 49ers elect to keep 6 receivers I'd take him over Lelie any day. Zeigler made some solid catches and impressed me with his fearlessness, particularly considering how small he is. His bio says he's 185lbs, but I don't buy that. He's eligible for the practice squad again but I wouldn't be surprised to see another team try and snag him.
Defense - The biggest criticism of the 49ers defense has been the lack of a pass rush. It was only a single preseason game, but the defensive line and linebackers showed dramatic improvement from week 1. The team finished with 6 sacks and Aaron Rodgers could not get into a rhythm the entire first half. Ray McDonald clearly has problems with jumping offsides, but he is also showing signs of being a legit pass rusher. He had 1.5 sacks and forced Rodgers into another one (although that might be the .5). Tully Banta-Cain made noise in the fourth quarter with a pair of sacks and Justin Smith even got in on the action.
The highlight of the night on defense was the stop after O'Sullivan's INT. The defense got really lucky on the Donald Lee drop in the endzone, but followed that up with a pair of big stops. On that defensive stand, and many others, the defense used hard hitting to set the tone and make sure the Packers knew they were in for a long night.
Special Teams - We're going to break this down into the good and the bad. The good is very clear: Allen Rossum showed signs of why he was signed. While his punt return TD was against the bottom of the Packers depth chart, he had to make some Pro Bowl caliber moves to score the TD. Also, Joe Nedney continues to be absolutely money. If the 49ers are going to get into contention, having a kicker with ice water in his veins is a big asset.
Now the bad. The special teams coverage was absolutely atrocious on a couple of returns. Granted it's the bottom of the depth chart, but giving up a pair of big kick off returns, particularly after the Johnnie Lee Higgins TD last week, is not a good sign. This coming week's game will give us a better idea of special teams coverage since first teamers play for up to three full quarters.
In spite of some of the ugliness, it was a fun game to watch, which is something 49ers fans have missed out on for much of the last few years. It's only one game so I won't get myself too worked up over the offensive performance (aside from Josh Morgan of course). There was plenty of good, but also plenty of room for improvement, making this upcoming game against the Bears all the more important.
Speaking of which, it's a short week as the 49ers and Bears square off Thursday on Fox in a nationally televised game. I'll have some more specific reviews of this just completed game and we'll get prepped for the Bears game shortly thereafter.
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49ers-Packers: Players to watch
While it'sonly the second preseason game of the season, it's also already the second game of the preseason. The first team offense and defense will get a half of play under the belt. The Packers finished last season 17th against the pass and 8th against the run. Not spectacular against the pass, but Al Harris and Charles Woodson are definitely nothing to sneeze at. Suffice to say, the 49ers offense will face a stiff challenge by ground and by air.
On the other hand, the Packers offense was 5th in the air and 9th on the ground. I'm not sure how the passing game will translate under Aaron Rodgers, but Ryan Grant is back running the ball, looking to build on an impressive 2007. After getting thrashed by the Raiders running game, the 49ers will be looking to bounce back and put up a slightly stiffer front (that's what she said). Although, I just checked Acme Packing Company, and it looks like Grant might be out. If so, even more reason to do a better job against the run.
August 26 is the first cut-down date (to 75 players) and some positional battles are heating up, both for roster spots and for depth chart rotation.
Josh Morgan - We've talked plenty about the rookie receiver from Virginia Tech. However, this is a particularly interesting matchup because of the corners he'll be facing. Due to injuries, Morgan will be in the starting lineup. This means a chance to square off against Charles Woodson or Al Harris. This will be a big test for the rookie (as well as J.T. O'Sullivan). You never want to get too excited after just one good performance in the preseason. However, if Morgan can put up a second good performance against a Pro Bowl-caliber cornerback, I think it's safe to say Fooch will be getting more excited (first ever reference to myself in the 3rd person I think).
Louis Holmes - Holmes has been getting more and more press as he seems to be impressing during practice, even getting some first team reps. However, he now finds himself in a potential numbers crunch, competing with Tully Banta-Cain, Roderick Green and Jay Moore. Barrows had some interesting comments about the four players:
Holmes, who has shown real promise as a pass rusher, is an obvious practice-squad candidate, but the 49ers would risk him being plucked off it by a team with room on its active roster. Banta-Cain disappointed last year with just 3.5 sacks, but he is the most versatile of the bunch and there's a sense that he'll be more effective in a reserve role just as he was in New England. Green has been perhaps the best pass rusher of this latter group. But his versatility is limited and the 49ers know (from history) there's little risk in cutting him and bringing him back midseason if need be. Moore, meanwhile, hasn't shown much of a pass rush and is still very much in learning mode when it comes to coverage duties. He is practice-squad eligible.
I would like to see Jay Moore make the roster, but I'm feeling more and more like he will end up on the practice squad. Holmes sounds motivated to make the roster, but the numbers crunch might get in the way. If he can make some noise against the Packers, maybe he can force the situation.
Keith Lewis - Up to this point I considered Lewis pretty secure in his roster spot. Barrows mentioned today that he thinks one of the final defensive backs could come down to either Lewis or Marcus Hudson. In comparing the two, Barrows said Lewis's strengths being special teams place and solid backup play at strong safety, while his main weakness is a lack of speed and versatility. Hudson, on the other hand, has less experience but more versatility in the secondary and is showing some special teams spark. I'm not sure how strong a performance Lewis would need to secure his spot, but it'd be interesting to see which way the 49ers go. Lewis has always been an under the radar guy, but considering he led the team in special teams tackles in 2007, he might be worth keeping around.
The team still has the Packers game and next Thursday's matchup at Chicago (along with several more practices) before the 75-man cut down date. The third preseason game is usually where the starters go upwards of 3 quarters, so backups need to make things happen sooner rather than later.
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49ers Training Camp: Defensive Musings
My apologies for the lack of posting over the last couple days. My birthday was Tuesday and while the good times lasted all day, the physical consequences carried well into yesterday. However, I'm fully recovered and ready to get back to the dawning of the J.T. O'Sullivan era.
There are obviously a million and one things to discuss related to the quarterback situation. It sounds like we'll hear later today who will get the starting nod on Saturday so that will get the troops chattering. In the meantime, I want to open discussion on the 49ers defense.
Last month I threw out a prediction that the 49ers defense would finish the season in the top half of the league. Since then, the defense was shredded by the Raiders running backs and they added Takeo Spikes. This post was inspired in part by sfgfan's comments in the Culpepper FanPost:
So there you have it, a pass rush that’s dependent on two players who haven’t proven they’re pass rushers, a guy who is learning a new position, and a guy who the team hasn’t used as a pass-rusher.
The pass rush was clearly a major problem last season. The team added Justin Smith in the offseason and gets Manny Lawson back healthy, but as sfgfan pointed out, neither is really a traditional pass rusher. Maiocco pointed out that TBC is having a strong training camp, but I think most of us are in agreement that he is not an every-down type of player.
So the question becomes, how good can your defense be without a good pass rush? The 49ers finished last season 21st in sacks with 31. Unfortunately I can't find the stats on quarterback hurries or how many times the QB was knocked down. Anybody have any idea where those stats might be?
It's a shame that the pass rush has been missing because I think the other pieces are in place for this defense to be really good. The addition of Takeo Spikes adds necessary depth to the linebacking corp, which was already very solid. The secondary is in good shape and with the continued emergence of Dashon Goldson the depth is good there as well.
So an argument could exist similar to the whole chicken or the egg argument. If you've got a great pass rush giving the QB less time to throw it's conceivable the secondary would look better. Of course, if you've got a very good secondary, can the quality coverage create enough time for the linemen and linebackers to make sacks?
While I do think that coverage sacks are an important part of the game, the secondary would get too worn down without a legitimate pass rush. It's got to be a little less tiring to run from the line of scrimmage to the QB than to have to run 30 or 40+ yards covering a speedy receiver.
I'm not here offering solutions to the problem of the pass rush, mainly because I don't know what those solutions might be. There has been talk of Parys Haralson turning into that guy, or maybe Ray McDonald. You want a great pass rushing unit, but usually there is one guy who is considered the big threat. It would be a shame to waste all this defensive talent. It'll be something worth keeping an eye on the remaining three games of the preseason.
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Projecting the 49ers 53-man roster #2
Two months ago we ran a little exercise of projecting the 53-man roster. Since that time, enough has changed to allow us the chance to revise our projections. If you've had a chance to check out Mike Sandos NFC West blog, he went through each team and gave roster analysis at all of the units (since updated with some of the 49ers injury and roster moves). Feel free to throw out any disagreements you have with some of my projections. I've bolded and underlined additions and will mention subtractions down below.
Offense
QB (3): Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, J.T. O'Sullivan
RB (3): Frank Gore, DeShaun Foster, Michael Robinson
FB (2): Moran Norris, Zak Keasey
WR (5): Isaac Bruce, Bryant Johnson, Arnaz Battle, Jason Hill, Josh Morgan
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Billy Bajema
LT (2): Joe Staley, Barry Sims
LG (2): Adam Snyder, Tony Wragge
C (2): Eric Heitmann, Cody Wallace
RG (2): David Baas, Chilo Rachal
RT (1): Jonas Jennings
Defense
DE (4): Isaac Sopoaga, Justin Smith, Kentwan Balmer, Ray McDonald
DT (2): Aubrayo Franklin, Ronald Fields
OLB (3): Manny Lawson, Tully Banta-Cain, Parys Haralson
ILB (5): Patrick Willis, Jeff Ulbrich, Dontarrious Thomas, Takeo Spikes, Larry Grant
CB (6): Nate Clements, Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer, Tarell Brown, Donald Strickland, Reggie Smith
FS (2): Mark Roman, Dashon Goldson
SS (2): Michael Lewis, Keith Lewis
Special Teams
K: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
LS: Brian Jennings
KR/PR: Allen Rossum
Changes
I made three changes, and only one of them is my own judgment call. Damane Duckett was placed on injured reserve and Sims is looking like a sure bet to make the team. Spikes is clearly in to replace Brandon Moore, so no surprises there.
The only "big change" I made was to plug in Zak Keasey and take off Ashley Lelie. It sounds like Lelie might miss another week, which puts him that much further behind. Couple that with the continued emergence of Josh Morgan and Lelie has to be considered on thin ice. Keasey has received a lot of playing time with the first team offense and got into quite a bit of action on Friday. The other option is keeping Keasey and dumping Moran Norris. I'm curious what people think about the fullback situation, even if it isn't the most glamorous of positions.
The Bubble
As roster spots become more secure, the questions becomes who remains on the bubble? Jay Moore made some plays (including a sack) last Friday and definitely helped himself. At the same time, Mike Nolan specifically said that while he'd done some positive things, he wasn't going to get bumped up because he still had areas to improve. While Tully Banta-Cain looked solid, I could certainly see him battling Moore and Roderick Green for a roster spot. However, I think TBC is the likely winner in that battle. I'm curious if Moore would eventually find himself on the practice squad.
I think Ashley Lelie is not necessarily on the bubble, so much as in some kind of purgatory. If he doesn't get healthy I don't see how he doesn't get cut. Josh Morgan certainly has room to improve, but if he keeps it up at this pace he's certainly not going to lose his spot to Lelie. A final addition to the bubble would be Louis Holmes. It sounds like he's been really impressing folks, although it's an uphill battle for him to make the 53-man roster.
Alright, anybody I'm overlooking or over-rating? I'm pretty sure most of us are praying for a whole lot of answers this Saturday against Green Bay. While there are bubble players, the questions are more related to the depth chart of the existing roster. A guy like Moore or Holmes will definitely need to step up their game Saturday night.
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49ers Training Camp Primer 2008
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The long "winter" that is the NFL offseason is finally at an end. While games do not kick for another couple weeks, practice is officially underway today. Thursday saw the 49ers report for duty and take care of phsyicals and whatnot. Thankfully all the rookies are under contract and in camp. To throw some cliches your way, in July everybody's a contender. Some more than others, but every team has some reason or another for hope. The 49ers hope comes in the form of Mike Martz and Justin Smith among many others.
We've broken down different training camp battles (twice). We've looked at the new 49ers on the field and amongst the coaching staff. We've even looked at possible best and worst case scenarios. Consider this post then a quick overview for those who may have been away from Niners Nation awhile, as well as general info on training camp in Santa Clara.
Practice Facilities
Marie P. DeBartolo Sports Center
Santa Clara, CA
8 practices open to the public: July 25, 26, 27, 28, 30; August 1, 2,3
John Clayton with quick thoughts on the 49ers training camp and things to do away from camp:
• What John Clayton says: What's better than 49er camp? First, it's located on the outside of Great America amusement park, which could make for a great doubleheader for the entire family. Catch a morning or afternoon practice with one of the up-and-coming teams in football and slide over to the theme park. The 49ers train at their headquarters and have a nice setup for fans, with stands and refreshments.
• What to do besides training camp: Santa Clara is 45 minutes from downtown San Francisco; visit 49ers' camp in the morning and shop in Union Square in the afternoon. Other must-see places in San Francisco include Alcatraz, Pier 39, Golden Gate Park and the Ferry Building. Back at team headquarters, the Santa Clara Golf & Tennis Club is located but a few feet away, should campgoers wish to take some swings while in town. For a true taste of Silicon Valley history, the Intel Museum also is just down the street. And nearby Triton Museum of Art offers free admission.
Veteran Additions
Isaac Bruce, WR
DeShaun Foster, RB
Bryant Johnson, WR
J.T. O'Sullivan, QB
LaJuan Ramsey, DT
Alan Reuber, OT
Allen Rossum, KR/PR
Barry Sims, OT
Justin Smith, DE
Dontarrious Thomas, LB
2008 Draft Class
Kentwan Balmer, DT/DE
Chilo Rachal, G/T
Reggie Smith, CB/S
Cody Wallace, C
Josh Morgan, WR
Larry Grant, LB
Training Camp Battles to watch
QB1: Alex Smith vs. Shaun Hill vs. J.T. O'Sullivan (no snickering please)
Ted Linebacker: Jeff Ulbrich vs. Larry Grant vs. Brandon Moore
RG (winner does battle with Baas): Chilo Rachal vs. Tony Wragge
CB #2/3: Walt Harris vs. Shawntae Spencer vs. Tarell Brown vs. Reggie Smith
WR #2/#3/#4: Bryant Johnson vs. Arnaz Battle vs. Ashley Lelie vs. Jason Hill vs. Josh Morgan
FS: Mark Roman vs. Dashon Goldson
ROLB: Tully Banta-Cain vs. Jay Moore vs. Parys Haralson
World Wide Supremacy: Patrick Willis and Andy Lee vs. God (trick question, Lee and Willis ARE God)
We'll have wall to wall coverage of training camp. I'm going to attend one of the eight practices, although that may expand to more if I have time. In the meantime, if ANYBODY here attends training camp, we'd love to hear your thoughts in a Fan Post. In the meantime I'll be scouring the Internet for information as things happen. I hope everyone is as excited as I am for the return of football!
And of course, if you haven't yet signed up, the random drawing for spots in the first Niners Nation Fantasy Football League will be held July 31. For those not selected, additional leagues will be created to fill all demand and there will be equal prizes to all winners.
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49ers Best Case/Worst Case: Eve of Training Camp
Training camp starts tomorrow for the 49ers. That much everybody knows. What will be the end result nobody really knows. Accordingly, I thought we'd take a look at the possible best and worst case scenarios for the 49ers. The plan is to look at them now and then again at the end of training camp when injuries have occurred or been recovered from.
I had thought about considering injuries, but the worst case scenario could then result in injuries to half the starters. So, instead the closest I'll come to injuries is certain starters "wearing down" from overuse. Normally I'm not a really negative person, but I think it's useful to consider the extremes in this case. Additionally, when I say extremes I'm not saying 16-0 and 0-16. I'm not predicting starting QB in the Pro Bowl for Alex Smith or 1,800 receiving yards from Bryant Johnson. Rather these are "realistic" best and worst case scenarios based on the past and thoughts about the future.
Best Case Scenario
While I know plenty of folks are on the Shaun Hill bandwagon, the best case for the 49ers has to involve Alex Smith taking the next step. If Shaun Hill steps up and takes the starting job that would be a close second. However, given the investment in and expectations of Alex Smith, the absolute best case scenario is his continued evolution as the starter.
Smith seemed to be making some progress in 2006, so this would involve him taking a step up from that season, as opposed to 2007. This would involve about 3,500 passing yards (he had 2,890 in 2006) and getting above 60% in completion percentage. These are numbers that would put him in the top 10-15 QBs in the league.
Frank Gore would bounce back from a relatively sub-par 2007 to finish with 2,000+ combined yards (1,500+ in 2007, 2,170+ in 2006). Bryant Johnson steps up with 70+ receptions and the 49ers finally have a 1,000+ yard receiver. At the same time, Vernon Davis takes the next step to 70+ receptions and over 1,000 yards as well. Finally, after a step back last season, the offensive line gels and keeps Smith off his butt most of the time. While I'd hope for Chilo Rachal to step up into the right guard role, he settles in as a solid sub and David Baas holds down the job for one season.
On defense, Patrick Willis sees his tackle total go down, but more because the rest of the defense has improved. Manny Lawson bounces back and the combination of Tully Banta-Cain, Jay Moore, Parys Haralson and some Justin Smith creates a somewhat viable pass rush. The secondary's statistics improve because of this pass rush and the 49ers defense finishes in the top 10.
Best Case Record: 11-5, division champion. While I'm not expecting this by any means, I think if things break the 49ers way and players develop like some of us hope, this is not out of the realm of possibility. The 49ers face a tough schedule outside of the division but there are some upset possibilities. 11-5 can happen with upsets of the Eagles and Redskins and sweeps of the Cardinals OR the Rams.
Worst Case Scenario
Neither Alex Smith or Shaun Hill steps up and J.T. O'Sullivan proves to be the career backup that we expect. If Smith and Hill both proved mediocre at best, the 49ers would be in the worst possible situation and I'd expect Mike Nolan would be out the door, possibly before the season is over. The team would realize they need to draft, trade for or sign a new QB of the future and would have wasted the last four seasons and I'd imagine 49ers would be just a little bit frustrated.
Frank Gore could still be decent in a 49ers worst case scenario but I think he wears down over the course of the season and finishes with 900 or so rushing yards, but an increase in receiving yards because none of the receivers are getting open. So he still finishes with 1,500 combined yards, but they're not "good yards." The wide receivers struggle as Bryant Johnson will clearly never be more than a backup and Isaac Bruce hits the wall that 35 year old NFL players tend to hit. Ashley Lelie is cut before the end of September and Jason Hill struggles in learning the NFL game. Finally, the offensive line does not gel as Jonas Jennings continues to have personal issues. David Baas is not fully recovered from his pec muscle tear and Chilo Rachal and Tony Wragge are not the answer yet.
On defense, Patrick Willis has an even higher tackle total than last season because the rest of the defense just plain stinks. The pass rush continues to be non-existent in part because Manny Lawson is slow to recover from his injuries. Walt Harris hits the same wall as Isaac Bruce and the 49ers are forced to give more playing time to rookie Reggie Smith and second year man Tarell Brown. Clearly neither is prepared for this situation.
Worst Case Record: 3-13, Nolan is canned and somebody has strangled Mike Martz. This would actually involve the 49ers going 0-8 on the road and 1-5 in the division. Of course, they would still beat the Detroit Lions!
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49ers Training Camp Battles after the first turn: Part II
Since training camp starts later this week, I put together a short list of position battles heading into training camp. I could wait until the day before, but since nothing is likely to change in the next few days, now is as good a time as any. We previously went over quarterback, right guard and the third/nickel back. At each position I've posted who I think is the early leader in the battle.
Right Outside Linebacker
Leader at the first turn: Tully Banta-Cain
When TBC was brought in last season, there was hope that he would help generate the pass rush that has been missing for some time. Unfortunately it did not work out quite like that. While he pounced on Kurt Warner's end zone fumble in overtime, that was probably the only highlight of significance from 2007. While with the Patriots, TBC was a veritable super-sub and it's possible he ends up back in that role with the 49ers. I list him as the leader simply because he's the incumbent. He'll see competition from my boy Jay Moore and Parys Haralson and will lose playing time to Justin Smith if the 49ers continue mixing him into the linebacker corp. Moore missed all of last season with a high ankle sprain but certainly had an opportunity to learn the system. I'm quite curious to see how he looks once the games get going.
Haralson got a big bump in playing time and while he wasn't spectacular, he certainly showed some skills. I would expect even more playing time for him this season. Considering the competition for playing time, I could definitely see the right OLB being a rotation between TBC, Haralson, Moore and Smith. While it'd be nice to see a single guy step into the role, each competitor brings something different to the table. Would you expect a platoon situation?
#2/#3 Wide Receiver
Leader at the first turn: Bryant Johnson and Arnaz Battle
It seems pretty clear that Bruce and Johnson are the guys we'll see starting every week. While the team isn't rolling out the likes of Boldin and Fitzgerald or Holt and Bruce (back in the day), the depth at wide receiver is intriguing nonetheless. Arnaz Battle is the guy who comes into training camp behind some new toy and is expected to take a step backwards. And then every year he steps up once again and is the 49ers most consistent receiver. Barring Isaac Bruce losing all his skills, Battle will primarily be battling Bryant Johnson for playing time. As much as I enjoy Battle on the field, I also know that if Johnson steps up and takes the #2 (or even #1) position, the 49ers will be better for it. Johnson brings more athleticism to the position and I think long term, Battle is better suited as the #3 guy.
I certainly would like to see Ashley Lelie step up and make a name for himself, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Jason Hill or even Josh Morgan leap him on the depth chart. He has supposedly climbed out the doghouse, but until he produces, I'm not holding my breath. Hill is an interesting option as he spent much of last year injured. This training camp, particularly the exhibition games, will be very important if he wants to not get relegated to the scrap heap.
Free Safety
Leader at the first turn: Mark Roman
We've heard plenty of reports about Dashon Goldson looking sharp in practice. Roman had to get his shoulder cleaned out and that gave Goldson more first team time during OTAs. Roman isn't getting any younger and as is the case so often in professional sports, it's always nice to improve the team while getting younger. This may actually be the training camp battle I'm most excited about. Assuming Roman is healthy, I'd imagine he'll have the edge. They say the challenger has to truly beat the champ to take the title and Goldson will really have to step up. Roman is a solid free safety, but it would certainly be nice to get the position locked up with a young talent like Goldson.
Aside from the positions mentioned above and previously, the remaining positional battles are more playing time than starting or not starting. Nose tackle will be interesting because there are so many bodies to mix in that I don't see a single full-time guy there. Aubrayo Franklin is the nose tackle, but Balmer will get some time and I'm curious to see how they move around Sopoaga. And, of course, if they mix in some 4-3 schemes the nose tackle disappears.
So, if there's a position battle you think I missed, feel free to let us know about it.
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49ers Training Camp Battles after the first turn: Part I
The 49ers open training camp at the end of this week and we'll finally start to get some answers to the numerous burning questions facing the 49ers. If you ask the mainstream media, the 49ers training camp questions boil down to learning Mike Martz's offense, the QB battle and, oh yea, the QB battle.
We all realize that there are a variety of battles to consider. Some of them are pretty obvious, while others are a little more subtle. Post-draft minicamp and the OTAs are done and while not a lot has been answered, the picture is starting to clear up. I had considered titling this something to do with coming down the stretch, but there is too much training camp for us to already be coming down the stretch. So here are my thoughts on the various battles and who the leader is after the first turn.
QB
Leader at the first turn: Alex Smith
We'll just get this out of the way. Alex Smith is the more mechanically and fundamentally sound QB so it's natural that he would be the leader going into training camp. Throw in the biggest contract and it makes the answer even easier. Once we get into games, we'll see how things play out.
Ted Linebacker
Leader at the first turn: Jeff Ulbrich
Until recently this seemed like a 3-horse race between Jeff Ulbrich, Dontarrious Thomas and my boy Larry Grant. Well, Mike Nolan and Scot McCloughan had a conference call with reporters yesterday and some interesting news came out. According to them, Ulbrich has a clear handle on the position, but it is in competition with Larry Grant and Brandon Moore. Apparently Thomas has been moved to the backup Mike position behind Patrick Willis. It sounds to me like Thomas will end up in a super-sub kind of role. It's also possible he's struggling picking up the defense and they figure he could do less damage backing up Willis. Thoughts?
Right Guard
Leader at the first turn: David Baas (if you ask Nolan)
In the conference call, Nolan said the 49ers fully expected Baas to be ready in time for the regular season and step into the starting role. Training camp however will see a battle between Tony Wragge and Chilo Rachal. This leaves a lot of questions on the table, if Wragge or Rachal clicks with the rest of the offensive line. Matt Barrows made mention of this last week and it is certainly something to consider. On the plus side, having multiple guys playing well is certainly good for depth. On the minus side, the offensive line is built on chemistry and cohesion. You don't want to be bumping guys around throughout the game. Looking at the 3 guys, Baas is only 26, Rachal 22 and Wragge 28. So age really isn't an issue. Of course, while it's all just rumor-mongering, throw in the highly speculative but still potential return of Larry Allen and it creates all sorts of confusion. Larry Allen aside, the injury to Baas leaves things in limbo. We'll have an answer as to who is ahead on the depth chart between Wragge and Rachal. However, unless Baas has a setback or has a miraculous recovery in the next week or two, right guard will remain a question mark.
3rd/Nickel Cornerback
Leader at the first turn: Shawntae Spencer
Surprisingly there has been very little talk about this position battle. Obviously the national media could care less, but even among local media things are quiet. Barrows briefly mentioned the position in relation to Walt Harris's eventual successor. The battle comes down to Spencer, Tarell Brown and Reggie Smith. Brown got a little playing time last season but clearly he's still got a lot to learn. Back during the draft, Scouts Inc felt Reggie Smith could step right into the 49ers sub packages. He can play corner and safety so he certainly brings some versatility. Of all the positional battles, this one could yield the most for team depth. I'd expect Spencer to be the guy coming out of camp (if he's healthy), but I think Brown will see a lot more playing time from last year and Smith will get a nice chunk of time. The 49ers play some receiver heavy teams this year so cornerback depth will be huge. Furthermore, if the pass rush is weak and the corners are crazy-busy, the more quality guys they can rotate in the better.
Stick with these for conversation for now. I'll have another post late this afternoon later tonight discussing the likes of right outside linebacker, wide receiver and free safety.
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Semi-rational irrational prediction: 49ers defense will be ranked in the top of the NFL
Last week I threw out my semi-rational irrational prediction that Vernon Davis would make the Pro Bowl this season. Originally that was just going to be a one-off post with nothing to follow. However, there are plenty of things I think will happen in the coming season that are just as rationally irrational. So, this series will become a semi-regular piece for the rest of the offseason. I can't really tell you how many I'll do or how often, but more when the mood strikes me....as it is has today.
During the first two seasons of the Nolan era, the 49ers defense has been less than stellar. According to straight yardage statistics they were 26th overall in 2006 and 25th in 2007. Using DVOA, Football Outsiders ranked the 49ers 28th in 2006 and 26th in 2007. At first glance the improvement does not seem all that big considering the big splash in free agency in 2007. However, 49ers fans realize how much time they had to spend on the field and how worn down that made the defense. So it's safe to say, statistical improvement by the defense will be helped in part by an improved offense. However, I think the defense itself will improve of its own accord for several reasons.
Manny Lawson
Lawson missed most of last season after tearing his ACL and his impact was certainly felt. The defense was forced to adjust on the fly at outside linebacker and it just never worked out. Lawson is an impact player and how he bounces back from surgery will play a big part in how this defense improves. If he is not tentative and doesn't lose a major step, I'm going to be a pleased 49ers fan. While I don't know if Manny Lawson could be the next Julian Peterson, he can still be a great linebacker for the 49ers.
Justin Smith
Smith seems like a prototypical Nolan player in the way he grinds it out and busts his ass. Smith practiced quite a bit at outside linebacker and will be one of the more flexible players on defense. Tully Banta-Cain is better served coming off the bench and a reduction in his playing time will help improve the defense. Moving Smith around the field will force the offense to work a little harder trying to keep track of him.
Ray McDonald
This will fall more in the irrational side of things. I have this feeling that Ray McDonald is going to have a very solid second year. While he may not become an all-around threat, I could see him turning into a legit pass rush threat. When the team goes to the 4-3 on occasion, or when Smith is at OLB and McDonald is at DE, I just see McDonald bringing some quality speed off the end. Anybody else agree? Maybe think I'm insane?
Secondary
Aside from the drafting of Reggie Smith, the secondary is pretty similar to last year. I consider that a good thing. Dashon Goldson seems to be stepping up as a potentially key backup at safety. Although Walt Harris is aging, Shawntae Spencer remains a talented back up and Tarell Brown will provide strong competition at the nickel back. There is always talk about the chemistry on the offensive line and how important that is for its success. I think one could argue the same thing about the secondary. When a corner is on an island, he's often expecting some kind of backup deep from the safeties. I think the longer a unit is together, the more cohesive they become and the more they trust each other.
A lot of this comes down to the pass rush and I can honestly say I don't know what to expect there. If he's healthy, the return of Manny Lawson is practically like a whole new player. Combine that with Justin Smith and I am definitely getting excited about the 49ers 2008 defense. While I'm not expecting one of those dominant Ravens or Bears defenses, I do expect good things. A prediction of top 16 does not seem entirely out of the realm of possibility. I had thought about predicting top 10, but I'm not quite sure if they'll make that leap yet.
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