49ers Training Camp: Defensive Musings
My apologies for the lack of posting over the last couple days. My birthday was Tuesday and while the good times lasted all day, the physical consequences carried well into yesterday. However, I'm fully recovered and ready to get back to the dawning of the J.T. O'Sullivan era.
There are obviously a million and one things to discuss related to the quarterback situation. It sounds like we'll hear later today who will get the starting nod on Saturday so that will get the troops chattering. In the meantime, I want to open discussion on the 49ers defense.
Last month I threw out a prediction that the 49ers defense would finish the season in the top half of the league. Since then, the defense was shredded by the Raiders running backs and they added Takeo Spikes. This post was inspired in part by sfgfan's comments in the Culpepper FanPost:
So there you have it, a pass rush that’s dependent on two players who haven’t proven they’re pass rushers, a guy who is learning a new position, and a guy who the team hasn’t used as a pass-rusher.
The pass rush was clearly a major problem last season. The team added Justin Smith in the offseason and gets Manny Lawson back healthy, but as sfgfan pointed out, neither is really a traditional pass rusher. Maiocco pointed out that TBC is having a strong training camp, but I think most of us are in agreement that he is not an every-down type of player.
So the question becomes, how good can your defense be without a good pass rush? The 49ers finished last season 21st in sacks with 31. Unfortunately I can't find the stats on quarterback hurries or how many times the QB was knocked down. Anybody have any idea where those stats might be?
It's a shame that the pass rush has been missing because I think the other pieces are in place for this defense to be really good. The addition of Takeo Spikes adds necessary depth to the linebacking corp, which was already very solid. The secondary is in good shape and with the continued emergence of Dashon Goldson the depth is good there as well.
So an argument could exist similar to the whole chicken or the egg argument. If you've got a great pass rush giving the QB less time to throw it's conceivable the secondary would look better. Of course, if you've got a very good secondary, can the quality coverage create enough time for the linemen and linebackers to make sacks?
While I do think that coverage sacks are an important part of the game, the secondary would get too worn down without a legitimate pass rush. It's got to be a little less tiring to run from the line of scrimmage to the QB than to have to run 30 or 40+ yards covering a speedy receiver.
I'm not here offering solutions to the problem of the pass rush, mainly because I don't know what those solutions might be. There has been talk of Parys Haralson turning into that guy, or maybe Ray McDonald. You want a great pass rushing unit, but usually there is one guy who is considered the big threat. It would be a shame to waste all this defensive talent. It'll be something worth keeping an eye on the remaining three games of the preseason.
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49ers Training Camp Primer 2008
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The long "winter" that is the NFL offseason is finally at an end. While games do not kick for another couple weeks, practice is officially underway today. Thursday saw the 49ers report for duty and take care of phsyicals and whatnot. Thankfully all the rookies are under contract and in camp. To throw some cliches your way, in July everybody's a contender. Some more than others, but every team has some reason or another for hope. The 49ers hope comes in the form of Mike Martz and Justin Smith among many others.
We've broken down different training camp battles (twice). We've looked at the new 49ers on the field and amongst the coaching staff. We've even looked at possible best and worst case scenarios. Consider this post then a quick overview for those who may have been away from Niners Nation awhile, as well as general info on training camp in Santa Clara.
Practice Facilities
Marie P. DeBartolo Sports Center
Santa Clara, CA
8 practices open to the public: July 25, 26, 27, 28, 30; August 1, 2,3
John Clayton with quick thoughts on the 49ers training camp and things to do away from camp:
• What John Clayton says: What's better than 49er camp? First, it's located on the outside of Great America amusement park, which could make for a great doubleheader for the entire family. Catch a morning or afternoon practice with one of the up-and-coming teams in football and slide over to the theme park. The 49ers train at their headquarters and have a nice setup for fans, with stands and refreshments.
• What to do besides training camp: Santa Clara is 45 minutes from downtown San Francisco; visit 49ers' camp in the morning and shop in Union Square in the afternoon. Other must-see places in San Francisco include Alcatraz, Pier 39, Golden Gate Park and the Ferry Building. Back at team headquarters, the Santa Clara Golf & Tennis Club is located but a few feet away, should campgoers wish to take some swings while in town. For a true taste of Silicon Valley history, the Intel Museum also is just down the street. And nearby Triton Museum of Art offers free admission.
Veteran Additions
Isaac Bruce, WR
DeShaun Foster, RB
Bryant Johnson, WR
J.T. O'Sullivan, QB
LaJuan Ramsey, DT
Alan Reuber, OT
Allen Rossum, KR/PR
Barry Sims, OT
Justin Smith, DE
Dontarrious Thomas, LB
2008 Draft Class
Kentwan Balmer, DT/DE
Chilo Rachal, G/T
Reggie Smith, CB/S
Cody Wallace, C
Josh Morgan, WR
Larry Grant, LB
Training Camp Battles to watch
QB1: Alex Smith vs. Shaun Hill vs. J.T. O'Sullivan (no snickering please)
Ted Linebacker: Jeff Ulbrich vs. Larry Grant vs. Brandon Moore
RG (winner does battle with Baas): Chilo Rachal vs. Tony Wragge
CB #2/3: Walt Harris vs. Shawntae Spencer vs. Tarell Brown vs. Reggie Smith
WR #2/#3/#4: Bryant Johnson vs. Arnaz Battle vs. Ashley Lelie vs. Jason Hill vs. Josh Morgan
FS: Mark Roman vs. Dashon Goldson
ROLB: Tully Banta-Cain vs. Jay Moore vs. Parys Haralson
World Wide Supremacy: Patrick Willis and Andy Lee vs. God (trick question, Lee and Willis ARE God)
We'll have wall to wall coverage of training camp. I'm going to attend one of the eight practices, although that may expand to more if I have time. In the meantime, if ANYBODY here attends training camp, we'd love to hear your thoughts in a Fan Post. In the meantime I'll be scouring the Internet for information as things happen. I hope everyone is as excited as I am for the return of football!
And of course, if you haven't yet signed up, the random drawing for spots in the first Niners Nation Fantasy Football League will be held July 31. For those not selected, additional leagues will be created to fill all demand and there will be equal prizes to all winners.
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49ers Best Case/Worst Case: Eve of Training Camp
Training camp starts tomorrow for the 49ers. That much everybody knows. What will be the end result nobody really knows. Accordingly, I thought we'd take a look at the possible best and worst case scenarios for the 49ers. The plan is to look at them now and then again at the end of training camp when injuries have occurred or been recovered from.
I had thought about considering injuries, but the worst case scenario could then result in injuries to half the starters. So, instead the closest I'll come to injuries is certain starters "wearing down" from overuse. Normally I'm not a really negative person, but I think it's useful to consider the extremes in this case. Additionally, when I say extremes I'm not saying 16-0 and 0-16. I'm not predicting starting QB in the Pro Bowl for Alex Smith or 1,800 receiving yards from Bryant Johnson. Rather these are "realistic" best and worst case scenarios based on the past and thoughts about the future.
Best Case Scenario
While I know plenty of folks are on the Shaun Hill bandwagon, the best case for the 49ers has to involve Alex Smith taking the next step. If Shaun Hill steps up and takes the starting job that would be a close second. However, given the investment in and expectations of Alex Smith, the absolute best case scenario is his continued evolution as the starter.
Smith seemed to be making some progress in 2006, so this would involve him taking a step up from that season, as opposed to 2007. This would involve about 3,500 passing yards (he had 2,890 in 2006) and getting above 60% in completion percentage. These are numbers that would put him in the top 10-15 QBs in the league.
Frank Gore would bounce back from a relatively sub-par 2007 to finish with 2,000+ combined yards (1,500+ in 2007, 2,170+ in 2006). Bryant Johnson steps up with 70+ receptions and the 49ers finally have a 1,000+ yard receiver. At the same time, Vernon Davis takes the next step to 70+ receptions and over 1,000 yards as well. Finally, after a step back last season, the offensive line gels and keeps Smith off his butt most of the time. While I'd hope for Chilo Rachal to step up into the right guard role, he settles in as a solid sub and David Baas holds down the job for one season.
On defense, Patrick Willis sees his tackle total go down, but more because the rest of the defense has improved. Manny Lawson bounces back and the combination of Tully Banta-Cain, Jay Moore, Parys Haralson and some Justin Smith creates a somewhat viable pass rush. The secondary's statistics improve because of this pass rush and the 49ers defense finishes in the top 10.
Best Case Record: 11-5, division champion. While I'm not expecting this by any means, I think if things break the 49ers way and players develop like some of us hope, this is not out of the realm of possibility. The 49ers face a tough schedule outside of the division but there are some upset possibilities. 11-5 can happen with upsets of the Eagles and Redskins and sweeps of the Cardinals OR the Rams.
Worst Case Scenario
Neither Alex Smith or Shaun Hill steps up and J.T. O'Sullivan proves to be the career backup that we expect. If Smith and Hill both proved mediocre at best, the 49ers would be in the worst possible situation and I'd expect Mike Nolan would be out the door, possibly before the season is over. The team would realize they need to draft, trade for or sign a new QB of the future and would have wasted the last four seasons and I'd imagine 49ers would be just a little bit frustrated.
Frank Gore could still be decent in a 49ers worst case scenario but I think he wears down over the course of the season and finishes with 900 or so rushing yards, but an increase in receiving yards because none of the receivers are getting open. So he still finishes with 1,500 combined yards, but they're not "good yards." The wide receivers struggle as Bryant Johnson will clearly never be more than a backup and Isaac Bruce hits the wall that 35 year old NFL players tend to hit. Ashley Lelie is cut before the end of September and Jason Hill struggles in learning the NFL game. Finally, the offensive line does not gel as Jonas Jennings continues to have personal issues. David Baas is not fully recovered from his pec muscle tear and Chilo Rachal and Tony Wragge are not the answer yet.
On defense, Patrick Willis has an even higher tackle total than last season because the rest of the defense just plain stinks. The pass rush continues to be non-existent in part because Manny Lawson is slow to recover from his injuries. Walt Harris hits the same wall as Isaac Bruce and the 49ers are forced to give more playing time to rookie Reggie Smith and second year man Tarell Brown. Clearly neither is prepared for this situation.
Worst Case Record: 3-13, Nolan is canned and somebody has strangled Mike Martz. This would actually involve the 49ers going 0-8 on the road and 1-5 in the division. Of course, they would still beat the Detroit Lions!
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49ers Training Camp Battles after the first turn: Part II
Since training camp starts later this week, I put together a short list of position battles heading into training camp. I could wait until the day before, but since nothing is likely to change in the next few days, now is as good a time as any. We previously went over quarterback, right guard and the third/nickel back. At each position I've posted who I think is the early leader in the battle.
Right Outside Linebacker
Leader at the first turn: Tully Banta-Cain
When TBC was brought in last season, there was hope that he would help generate the pass rush that has been missing for some time. Unfortunately it did not work out quite like that. While he pounced on Kurt Warner's end zone fumble in overtime, that was probably the only highlight of significance from 2007. While with the Patriots, TBC was a veritable super-sub and it's possible he ends up back in that role with the 49ers. I list him as the leader simply because he's the incumbent. He'll see competition from my boy Jay Moore and Parys Haralson and will lose playing time to Justin Smith if the 49ers continue mixing him into the linebacker corp. Moore missed all of last season with a high ankle sprain but certainly had an opportunity to learn the system. I'm quite curious to see how he looks once the games get going.
Haralson got a big bump in playing time and while he wasn't spectacular, he certainly showed some skills. I would expect even more playing time for him this season. Considering the competition for playing time, I could definitely see the right OLB being a rotation between TBC, Haralson, Moore and Smith. While it'd be nice to see a single guy step into the role, each competitor brings something different to the table. Would you expect a platoon situation?
#2/#3 Wide Receiver
Leader at the first turn: Bryant Johnson and Arnaz Battle
It seems pretty clear that Bruce and Johnson are the guys we'll see starting every week. While the team isn't rolling out the likes of Boldin and Fitzgerald or Holt and Bruce (back in the day), the depth at wide receiver is intriguing nonetheless. Arnaz Battle is the guy who comes into training camp behind some new toy and is expected to take a step backwards. And then every year he steps up once again and is the 49ers most consistent receiver. Barring Isaac Bruce losing all his skills, Battle will primarily be battling Bryant Johnson for playing time. As much as I enjoy Battle on the field, I also know that if Johnson steps up and takes the #2 (or even #1) position, the 49ers will be better for it. Johnson brings more athleticism to the position and I think long term, Battle is better suited as the #3 guy.
I certainly would like to see Ashley Lelie step up and make a name for himself, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Jason Hill or even Josh Morgan leap him on the depth chart. He has supposedly climbed out the doghouse, but until he produces, I'm not holding my breath. Hill is an interesting option as he spent much of last year injured. This training camp, particularly the exhibition games, will be very important if he wants to not get relegated to the scrap heap.
Free Safety
Leader at the first turn: Mark Roman
We've heard plenty of reports about Dashon Goldson looking sharp in practice. Roman had to get his shoulder cleaned out and that gave Goldson more first team time during OTAs. Roman isn't getting any younger and as is the case so often in professional sports, it's always nice to improve the team while getting younger. This may actually be the training camp battle I'm most excited about. Assuming Roman is healthy, I'd imagine he'll have the edge. They say the challenger has to truly beat the champ to take the title and Goldson will really have to step up. Roman is a solid free safety, but it would certainly be nice to get the position locked up with a young talent like Goldson.
Aside from the positions mentioned above and previously, the remaining positional battles are more playing time than starting or not starting. Nose tackle will be interesting because there are so many bodies to mix in that I don't see a single full-time guy there. Aubrayo Franklin is the nose tackle, but Balmer will get some time and I'm curious to see how they move around Sopoaga. And, of course, if they mix in some 4-3 schemes the nose tackle disappears.
So, if there's a position battle you think I missed, feel free to let us know about it.
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The 49ers Anti-Starting Lineup
Last season I signed up for text message updates from the 49ers and I have to say, some of the time I'm receiving them before seeing anything online. Being in the slow days of June, not a whole lot is going on so not too many messages. However, early yesterday afternoon I learned that the 49ers had successfully claimed QB Kyle Wright off waivers from the Vikings and waived QB Drew Olson.
Considering the quarterbacks already in camp, I'd be shocked if Wright was on the roster at the end of August. At the same time, Wright could be a prime candidate for the practice squad. Drew Olson actually spent a small part of the season on the practice squad. In the meantime, the claim of Wright has inspired me. The 49ers currently have 81 players on their roster, including unsigned draft picks. Just for sh$#s and giggles I thought I'd put together the "worst starting lineup possible." All of these players are certainly world class athletes, but many of them are not starter quality.
OFFENSE
QB: Kyle Wright - He was ok for the U last season but definitely the worst option.
RB: Michael Robinson - Robinson brings a lot to the table, but I'm convinced Thomas Clayton is a better pure running back. We're not factoring in potential special teams contributions either.
WR: Dominque Ziegler & Jerard Rabb - I actually like most of the 49ers less wide receivers, especially Robert Jordan. Ziegler has struggled with injuries problems and Rabb was the 1A banana at Boise State in 2006 (he was the guy who caught the lateral and tied the game).
TE: Cooper Wallace - At least JJ Finley is a rookie and put up better college numbers. Wallace has been in the NFL a couple years and hasn't made a big impact yet. I'd imagine he's coming to the end of the road pretty soon.
OT: Damane Duckett & Alan Reuber - Duckett is a pet project of Nolan and considering he's never actually played in a game as a tackle. Reuber has been around since 2004 and has seen scattered action during that time.
C: Cody Wallace - Not exactly an inspired pick. I'm tempted to just see Wallace starting over Heitmann, but this is more a default pick since the 49ers only have a pair of centers.
OG: Brian De La Puente & Jeb Terry - Terry has been around the league for a few years and seen some action mostly on special teams. De La Puente is a rookie out of Cal and I wouldn't mind seeing him on the practice squad.
DEFENSE
DE: Atiyyah Ellison & Louis Holmes - Ellison joins the running theme of practice squad bodies on this squad. Louis Holmes is an undrafted free agent, so it's certainly too early to tell what he brings to the table.
DT: Walter Curry - LaJuan Ramsey was battling for this spot, but Ramsey has actually registered real NFL statistics. Curry was an undrafted free agent in 2005 and has bounced from practice squads to NFL Europe and back.
OLB: Roderick Green & Parys Haralson - The linebacker positions show you the deth the 49ers have. Green and Haralson are probably not starting caliber (at least for the 49ers), but they provide quality depth
ILB: Dennis Haley & Larry Grant - As seen in the outside linebackers, inside linebacker would also be a strength of this particular team. Grant is a favorite of mine, so we'll see how he looks in training camp.
CB: Markus Curry & Marcus Hudson - Curry has bounced around practice squads since 2005 and I'd imagine he'd be an early cut in training camp. The second CB spot was tough. Tarell Brown brings way too much upside and Strickland gets a pass thanks to his huge defensive play against the Cardinals. Reggie Smith is too green to be considered here so that leaves "veteran" Marcus Hudson.
FS: Lewis Baker - He's an undrafted free agent with some potential, but I certainly don't see sticking Mark Roman or Dashon Goldson in this spot.
SS: DJ Parker - Similar to Baker above, I don't see sticking Michael Lewis or Keith Lewis in this spot.
There's a back-up punter but that would just be ridiculous to talk about. Of course considering I just did an analysis of the bottom end of the roster pool, maybe I should have included Ricky Schmitt. I'd imagine this team would probably go 0-16. Although, I definitely think this would make for an impressive college team. So, would this team be able to win at the NFL level? Considering we're playing Miami this year, it's entirely possible 1-15 is a better bet.
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Niners Nation Chats with Matt Barrows, Sacramento Bee
And so the 49ers first mini-camp is in the books. Seeing as that's a sizable chunk of the offseason, now seemed like as good a time as any to check back in with Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee. Matt covers the 49ers for the Bee, including an fun blog at the Bee's website, and he's been very willing to provide his insight when Niners Nation has questions. We still have the team's training activities in June, followed by training camp, but now seemed like a good time get a lay of the land. Thanks again to Matt for taking the time to answer my questions.
NN: One of the reasons I wanted to talk with you is there has been a lot of questions at Niners Nation about Manny Lawson and the timetable for his return. You mentioned in your post Sunday that Lawson feels ready but the team trainers wanted him to wait another month. Does that mean he'll be full go at the beginning of the organized team activities in June?
MB: Lawson certainly feels like he’s at, or at least very close to, 100 percent. But it’s up to the training staff and they’re obviously taking a cautious approach. If Lawson does take part in the OTAs, I expect him to be eased in – not full bore from the beginning. In the meantime, Tully Banta-Cain and Parys Haralson have been manning both outside linebacker positions. That’s good. Haralson improves with every repetition he gets…
NN: It sounds like Dashon Goldson made a nice little impact over the weekend. Obviously it's a small sample size and still way too early to infer anything, but what kind of role do you see Goldson fitting into in 2008?
MB: Well, he’s part of the team’s dime coverage package. But the fact that Mark Roman got the lion’s share of the work with the radio receiver (green dot on the helmet) over the weekend appears to be a signal that he’s set as the starting free safety.
NN: Since draft day there have been discussions about where Kentwan Balmer would be playing. He was listed as a nose tackle by ESPN, they've said he'll play some end, and now I've read he'd start at end but transition to nose tackle. Any ideas or is it going to be a process that will develop as Balmer shows the team what he can do?
MB: Balmer practiced exclusively at left defensive end over the minicamp. Nolan said they didn’t want to throw too much at him too early so they kept him at one spot. Nolan also said the techniques at all three d-line positions are essentially the same and that once Balmer picks up LDE he should be able to learn NT fairly quickly. This is just my reading of the situation, but the fact that Nolan talked so much on draft day about Balmer playing NT may have been a message to Aubrayo Franklin.
NN: Speaking of the draft, some people were surprised at the decision to not take an outside linebacker prior to the 7th round. That raised some questions about how much 4-3 we might see mixed in with the 3-4 currently in place. You had discussed on Friday that Justin Smith lined up a little bit at outside linebacker, but that he didn't know how often that would be happening. Any word from the coaching staff on that?
MB: Well, the 49ers actually didn’t draft an outside linebacker at all. The seventh rounder, Larry Grant, will play inside for the 49ers. To me, that was surprising. A 3-4 defense depends on its outside linebackers to pressure the quarterback and the 49ers didn’t upgrade that position at all – neither in free agency nor the draft. The hope is that better play along the line will allow the OLBs more room to make plays. … As far as Smith playing linebacker, the coaches did not say how much that would happen. I think the minicamp was designed to see if Smith could do it. To my admittedly untrained eye, he looked kind of slow, or, exactly how you would expect a 282 pounder to play when asked to stand up.
NN: Along the same lines, it seems like the team will be throwing a lot of different looks at opponents. Justin Smith is certainly-cut starter. After that the team has Franklin, Sopoaga, McDonald and Balmer as guys that would seem to have a shot at a lot of playing time. Then factor in guys like Melvin Oliver and Joe Cohen, among others, who could cut into that. On the one hand the team will have plenty of opportunities to keep guys fresh, but there's also the question of guys not getting into sync and developing in-game chemistry. Any ideas on how the team might address that in training camp?
MB: The 49ers will be very chameleon-like this year and they will throw all sorts of fronts at the offense. One of them is a four-man front with Ray McDonald as the right defensive end and Justin Smith next to him at defensive tackle. What I’m saying is that there will be lots of combinations of defensive linemen. I think Oliver and Cohen, however, are going to have a hard time making the final roster. Once they return to action, they will be at the very bottom of the depth chart and would have to play brilliantly to climb it. One of the advantages of a 3-4 defense is that a team doesn’t need to keep as many linemen. I figure the top six right now are Smith, McDonald, Franklin, Fields, Balmer and Sopoaga.
NN: One last question unrelated to the team. I noticed during the draft and since some shoutouts from Maiocco to you and vice versa. I can certainly imagine a competition element to your relationship and covering the 49ers for different newspapers. While you might be competing for readers, with all the time I'd guess you spend around each other is it more of a friendly rivalry?
MB: There’s definitely a competitive element to press trailer, but never to a degree where it’s uncomfortable. I hear stories every once in a while about how ultra competitive the beat used to be in the Walsh-Seifert era and how reporters (who shall remain nameless) would seethe and lash out when they got beat on a story. It’s nothing like that now. In fact, Maiocco has been incredibly generous in sharing a lot of the tricks of the trade with me. All the beat-Maiocco-at-all-costs stuff I write is done with tongue firmly in cheek.
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